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“A lot has been said and written and it seemed that I made a decision overnight, but of course that was not the case. I have always told Mino that I would not announce my decision until after the Nations League because I wanted to fully focus on playing football.
But actually I had known for a long time. It was only very annoying that so much was speculated. I tried to close myself off, although with all those social media that is never entirely possible.


Money played no role in my choice. Everyone who knows me knows that too. Mino is my agent, he goes over the business side, but that only came after my active choice was made. Money has never been leading.
There were indeed many people who advised me to go to Barcelona. But I said to myself: I put everything together and see what is best for me. Of course I can listen to all those opinions, but I'm the one who makes the choice.
De Jong & I have often talked about what we were going to do. We have been very transparent to each other. It would have been great if we had played together, only our careers should not depend on each other's decision.
Everyone has their own career. I have looked at all the pros and cons and have crossed things out. Ultimately, you have to feel good about the club that suits you. I had that feeling with Juventus.


With a large transfer it is also just important how you enter. Then I know that I am very comfortable with Mino. I also think that we complement each other very well. Mino is fiercer, I am more relaxed and I think that mix is very good.
There may be a certain negative image of him. I think if you ask every player who is accompanied by him if Mino does a good job, they all say yes. That is the most important. It is not about what people say about him, but what he can do for me.
When I think of Italy, I think of defending. Italy has produced very good players, I immediately think of defenders such as Cannavaro, Maldini, Baresi. Defending is an art here. I am happy to be able to develop further at a world club in Italy.
I even have a Juve shirt from when I was seven years old. I still have that. I grew up at Ajax with the football from backwards to the extreme playing football. Juve is also about good football with good players, but the most important thing is winning.
You see that mentality with players like Buffon, Chiellini & Ronaldo. They know what it's all about & I hope they can learn me that.
The medical examination, for example, is so extensive, they look everything up and out. Whether a scan from five years ago can become dangerous. I found it very interesting, I have already learned things about keeping fit that I did not know yet.
At Ajax it was all about fun, but now I’m in a big man's world. It is working, working, working. To be honest, it appeals to me, that is a mentality that suits me.
At Ajax I defended purely on my feeling, I just did what I thought. In Italy I hope to improve my tactical skills. How should you stand, what position should I take? I think I can improve a lot in that.


Sarr is known for that & I have already discussed this with him. During my first training I immediately had a tactical lesson from the assistant trainer of one hour. How to choose position and how Juventus defends.
I will have to show myself. They have Chiellini, Bonucci, Rugani & Demiral, which are four top players. It does not feel like I am already a starter because they have paid me a lot of money. That's not how it works at clubs like this.
They look at the performance. If you perform well, you play. If you perform less, you won't.
There are several clubs that can win the UCL, Juventus is one of them. Juve is one of the top six teams in the world. It is therefore logical that they have set that as their goal. But a club like Juventus must always play for all prizes.


Fortunately almost every player speaks English, I was surprised about that, but it makes it a lot easier. I already had a chat with everyone, I already knew them a little and of course they already know me from the matches against Ajax.

From now on only my achievements at Juventus count. I like challenges & this feels like a fantastic new challenge. I wanted this. I know that if I want to reach the world top, I have to step out of my comfort zone completely and dare to jump into the deep.
I don't feel pressure because of the high price tag that hangs around my neck. At a club like Juventus it is always there. I'll just have to perform. I think that pressure makes me sharper and more alert.”
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Публикуван на: 21 Jul 2019, 14:55


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Някоя лелче да не си е направила шега в пералното...
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Публикуван на: 21 Jul 2019, 13:38


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QUOTE(nikentus @ 21 Jul 2019, 13:11) *
Дано да си прав. Кансело ме кефи много като футболни качества, поизключвайки играта в защита. Иначе слуховете за Кансело ги има, има и знаци, че може да са верни, а моята цел да ги споделя, не е да го уволнявам, а да дам гледна точка защо може да се случи негов трансфер. Надали и 1% от написаното в този форум оказва влияние върху мениджмънта на Юве, така че се чувствам свободен да давам мнението си, одисей.

Ники, аз самия реагирах негативно като видях във въпросното клипче как се мъндрахерца португалеца. Просто медиите, а и юзърите, са в състояние да създават алтернативна картина, която често няма нищо общо с истината, която пък отделно е крайно субективна, ако не става въпрос за наука. И тъй като често попадам в този капан и усещайки, че мозъка се ебава яко, реших да споделя, без да съм визирам някого конкретно, най-малко пък теб като един от любимците ми.
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Публикуван на: 21 Jul 2019, 13:03


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Дали Кансело се раздава или не, ни е доста трудно да кажем, предвид липсата на инфо. Но е супер кеф, когато някой вади от контекста, в случая цяла тренировка на която им сцепват задниците, с клипче от 20сек. Долния клип е над 3 мин. и където и да зърнах Кансело си се раздаваше повече от прилично. Но, да, снимка с Паратичи; съвсем отцепен на общата снимка в самолета, макар да има кадри как го снимат и с усмивка; тузове - музове; и хоп - изграждаме си мнение на база, потенциално, фалшива информация. Нищо ново, просто е пропуск в процесора. Пък и мен да се опитват всячески да разкарат...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsh16dD0y_M
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Публикуван на: 21 Jul 2019, 10:13


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Публикуван на: 21 Jul 2019, 07:58


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De Ligt "I tried to shut off from the rumours as much as possible. It was a bit tiring. The most insane message I read was that I wouldn't go to PSG because I wanted to earn more than Mbappe. What nonsense!

"Money played no role for me. Everyone who knows me knows that.”
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Публикуван на: 21 Jul 2019, 07:15


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QUOTE(superniki @ 20 Jul 2019, 23:11) *
На бас на по едно черно джони tooth.gif за това, че Дармиан няма да дойде. Просто да има смисъл от разговорите по темата "Дармиан".
P.S.Някой очаква ли Бонавентура?

Остана и да дойде. Аз се напрягам при самото четене на името му, камо ли...
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Публикуван на: 20 Jul 2019, 21:12


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Juventus are hoping to sell Cancelo to Man City in the coming days for €60m in order to sign Darmian. (GdS)

Cancelo is not part of Juve's plans, they expect Man City will sign him but they must sell Danilo. [Romeo Agresti]

Човек и добре да живее, ще му се наложи да чете слухове за Дармиан. Кажи - речи всяко от последните 4-5 лета. И колкото по-бездарен е през сезона играча, толкова повече пари му искат Юнайтед.
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Публикуван на: 20 Jul 2019, 14:03


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До момента средната възраст на привлечените играчи е 22.4г

Като нищо да я свалим с поне две години, предвид и очакваното напускане на част от ветераните.
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Публикуван на: 18 Jul 2019, 22:13


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Perin’s medical at Benfica wasn’t successful.
The shoulder injury Perin has needs 4 months of recovery. He'll return to Italy and train with Juventus then make the move later in the year. [@NicoSchira]

...и как да се разчита на това стъкло да ти е първи вратар“ Абсурд.
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Публикуван на: 18 Jul 2019, 22:04


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Mattia Perin's move from Juventus to Benfica has been postponed. In fact, it is the same club from Portugal that confirms the indiscretions that have arrived in the last few hours, which has made it clear that medical examinations have not been passed. "Clinical examinations carried out today showed that goalkeeper Mattia Perin will face a longer recovery than expected. The estimated time is about 4 months. There has been an agreement between the clubs: the recovery of Mattia Perin will take place at Juventus. After rehabilitation, the transfer of the player will materialize."

https://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/serie-a/per...ecupero-1270484
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Публикуван на: 18 Jul 2019, 20:37


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Perin the medical examinations with the #Benfica supported and passed them. But the final agreement between the clubs is still missing: we continue to deal - Romeo Agresti

https://twitter.com/romeoagresti?ref_src=tw...920047532720128
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Публикуван на: 18 Jul 2019, 09:41


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Хм, нищо не се споменава за клаузата в официалното съобщение?! huh.gif
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Публикуван на: 18 Jul 2019, 07:07


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In Matthijs de Ligt, Andrea Agnelli makes his word action
https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2019/...-vswN3VkuatQcLs


This past September, Juventus President Andrea Agnelli was interviewed for a long piece in the Financial Times about the deal that brought Cristiano Ronaldo to Turin.

A the time the deal was — and to some extent remains — a major gamble. In transfer fees and wages, Juventus was investing a total of €340 million in a player that, for all his greatness, was staring his 34th birthday in the face, in the hope that it would reverse the way finances in soccer usually worked. Hampered by poor broadcasting revenue in Serie A, Ronaldo was seen as a way to pull in fans and sponsors and just maybe that elusive Champions League title, thereby increasing broadcasting revenue and, ultimately, achieving Agnelli’s greatest dream: making Juventus the top club in the world.

At the close of the article, the author pointed out one of the biggest hurdles in the project: The ability to pull in top-level talent once Ronaldo retires. Agnelli acknowledged as much, saying, “We have to be in a position to be able to clinch the next Cristiano, but at the age of 25.”

Almost exactly a year later, as Matthijs de Ligt climbed down the steps from a private jet at Caselle Airport in Turin on Tuesday night, one can’t help but remember those words — and credit Agnelli for acting on his words.

Yes, de Ligt may be a defender rather than a goalscorer, but it still holds. The kind of defender de Ligt has shown to be is a real rarity in this day and age. At 19 years old, he is the complete package we all thought Leonardo Bonucci would be for his entire career when he was at the height of his power from 2014 to 2016. He was the most sought-after player of the entire transfer window. He had the option to go to old-guard glamor clubs like Barcelona and Manchester United or a nouveau-riche like Paris Saint-Germain and their Scrooge McDuck-like money bin.

Instead, he chose Juve, a team that, even with its history, still hasn’t fully regained the place it had on the European stage before calciopoli — and even then was so often the bridesmaid and never the bride.

A lot of people will immediately point to the “Ronaldo effect” in de Ligt’s arrival. The Portuguese icon was the teenager’s idol as a boy (or I guess a younger boy than he is now?) and it is well known that Ronaldo lobbied him to come to Turin after the UEFA Nations League final last month. The easy explanation of “Ronaldo brought de Ligt to Turin” is going to be a major refrain over the next few days, but the story of this transfer goes much deeper than that.

When Agnelli was installed as president in 2010, he started rebuilding from the ground up. After an initial misfire in both coach selection (Gigi Delneri) and the transfer market (Milos Krasic), he and Beppe Marotta started laying the groundwork for what Agnelli wanted the club to become. Smart transfer business brought the likes of Andrea Pirlo, Arturo Vidal, Paul Pogba, and many others for either bargain prices or absolutely nothing. The opening of the Allianz Stadium, a major source of revenue not available to any other Italian team, made them the financial titan of Europe. But they were still no match for the financial might of teams like Real Madrid or the oil-fueled newbies like PSG or Manchester City. There was sustained success, but Juve still wasn’t considered a destination club.

That, apart from getting that long-sought Champions League crown, is Agnelli’s ultimate goal. Getting there would have to mean a change in philosophy. While the team continues to exploit opportunities for bargains in the transfer market — see: “Ramsey, Aaron” and “Rabiot, Adrien” — the team has started to throw more money around. The wage scale that Marotta curated so carefully before his departure last year has started to loosen up. Ronaldo is obviously the main example, but when de Ligt signs his contract he will become the team’s (and the league’s) second-highest paid player at a stroke. Agnelli also moved to make the team’s football more attractive — both to fans and to prospective targets — when he parted ways with Massimiliano Allegri and brought in Maurizio Sarri. All this has had some consequences, most notably the departure of Marotta, who may end up using the same strategies to make Inter a more viable contender.

But that change of strategy is also what brought Ronaldo to the team, and in a wider sense is what brought de Ligt. Ronaldo may have helped close the deal, but Agnelli deserves the credit for starting the ball rolling in the first place.

There are still questions to be asked. The 19-year-old de Ligt does have a release clause in his contract, a departure from normal team practice and something that his agent, Mino Raiola, is sure to try to leverage to move the defender at some point to secure another fat payday for himself. And it still remains to be seen whether Juve will advance their image to the point that they will be able to attract players like de Ligt once the lure of playing with Ronaldo can no longer be employed. But as the Dutchman’s official unveiling draws ever closer, the man who really deserves the credit is the one who, at the first time of asking, made good on his words and picked up the top young player on the market.
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QUOTE(Beroe_Juve @ 17 Jul 2019, 21:07) *
Няма още официално обявяване...Ди Марцио пише,че сме се разбирали за последни детайли??? Какви детайли като вече мина преглед не мога да разбера

The official announcement for De Ligt to Juventus will come tomorrow while presentation should be on Friday. [Di Marzio]
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Публикуван на: 17 Jul 2019, 16:03


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QUOTE(*JUVENTUS* @ 17 Jul 2019, 15:45) *
За средняк като Погба може да не съм съгласен да се дават много пари. Но Неймар какъвто и да е е един от най-добрите атакуващи футболисти в света!

Меси, Роналдо, Неймар, М'бапе, Дибала... малко след тях нареждам Азар и Салах. Независимо от моментната форма! Тук Погба може да им подава само топката. И аз искам М'бапе, но ако няма да е М'бапе и имаме пари за харчене предпочитам Неймар пред средняка Погба! И двамата са лекета, но единият е супер класа за разлика от другия!

Неймар-Роналдо-Дибала! С Де Лихт, тази защита, бекове, а и средна линия, Ман Сити ще напълнят гащите още като излязат срещу нас. Стърлинг ще обикаля в кръг! biggrin.gif

Неймар е с цена 222млн. евро, освен ако не му щукне друго на шейха, със заплата в порядъка на тази на Кристиано. Пак си направи сметките, че и Дибала в отбора.
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Публикуван на: 17 Jul 2019, 15:38


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not great, not terrible...
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Мундо е парцал подобен на Тутоспорт.
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QUOTE(Teogo0alll @ 17 Jul 2019, 11:27) *
Ще коментираме ли слуховете за Неймар в Юве или да ги оставим за догодина biggrin.gif

както би казал Паратичи - фентъзи футбол. А и с две думи - не можем да си го позволим.
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Сари след една седмица работа с Бонучи в защита...
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Райола:
Arriving at J Medical along with Matthijs de Ligt, who will carry out the ritual medical examinations with Juventus, agent Mino Raiola spoke about the negotiation that brought the defender to Italy. "What was decisive for De Ligt in black and white? The sports project. If he was already from Barcelona? You have written a lot of bullshit (referring to the journalists present, ndr), Juventus is the club that is for him and for his ideas. It is ideal for his career, for a defender to arrive in Italy is important. It is a necessary stage in his career, in his head he wants to become the strongest in the world."

Can he become number one? ""Among young people it already is, then it takes little to prove that he is number one even at a high level. However, he has to work. He is the player closest to, perhaps surpassing, Nedved as a mentality and Zlatan Ibrahimovic as an ambition. He has everything to become what he wants."

Can you live with Bonucci and Chiellini? "Great champions always coexist well."

Did Ronaldo really ask him to join him at Juve? "You have to ask CR7, I don't know."

Does Pogba stay at United? Is Juventus interested? "There's nothing, no one's ever written to me. If he stays in Manchester? I live my life day by day. Let's see what happens."

Can Balotelli return to Italy? "Ditto with potatoes. I'm here today, I don't know where I'm going to be tomorrow."

What future for Kean? "He's on the same plane as De Ligt. He's a great champion, let's see."

Did you give De Ligt any advice? ""The choice to accept Juve was a thoughtful choice, it was not a one-day chat. It's a process, it wasn't advice. What if the clause exists? I'm not talking about a contract, I've never talked about that.'


И извадено от контекста - ...It is a necessary stage in his career.
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QUOTE(vench @ 16 Jul 2019, 08:48) *
Това е много добра новина за мен!

Определено.
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QUOTE(nikentus @ 16 Jul 2019, 06:51) *


или



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кочското ми мнение е в пълна полза за девойчето от долната снимка
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Manchester City is no longer interested in Joao Cancelo. [Sky]
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Matthijs de Ligt is a new Juventus player, done deal and contracts signed! Tomorrow night he’ll arrive in Torino and he’ll have medicals on Wednesday. ⚪️⚫️ Fabrizio Romanо
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